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    Let me assure you that when SE 2 changed the reputation pages, there was a lot of people going on about how it's a bad change, then they changed them again some more. It's quite easy to get used to the SE 2 user pages, and for the most part I find them more informative than the ones on MO, in particular historical activity of the user.

    • CommentAuthorquid
    • CommentTimeJun 6th 2013

    @Poppy: Regarding how the site will look like in general: It was mentioned once that from its look it will stay very close to the present. In particular, it will not be like the sandbox-version.

    • CommentAuthorWill Jagy
    • CommentTimeJun 7th 2013 edited
    One thing came up that I had forgotten about. On MO it is possible to search deleted posts, including self-deletions by anyone, back arbitrarily far. I did exactly that for Yemon's "embedding in R^3 again and again and again" guy,

    A year or two ago view of deletions, especially self-deletions, was severely restricted across all stackexchange sites. Is MO 2.0 going to be restricted in the same way? I would prefer to keep the search capability we have.
    Will, that restriction applies to all SE 2.0 sites I think, so I would assume it will apply to MO 2.0. Not long after the change a feature request was posted on

    This means that the type of thing you describe will be much less possible for nonmoderators, but I think that moderators are still able to view listings of all deleted posts. (I am writing as someone who has never been a moderator of any SE site, and I don't have authoritative info.)
    • CommentAuthorWill Jagy
    • CommentTimeJun 7th 2013
    Jonas, thanks. The ability to view, say, the last seven days, would do it for any future searches for me, even one day would help, but it seems that will not be available even in a limited time window. Well, that's a shame.

    In case this has not been brought up, the Stackexchange network has changed how FAQs are handled, see here.

    • CommentAuthorWillieWong
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2013

    @Jonas and @Will: for non-self-deletions, 10K (or is it 20K?) users can still view the "recent" ones. I am not sure about the definition, but I think it is the last 24 hours (based on observational evidence).

    List of self-deletions is only visible to Mods. Best I can tell we can see two months or so of activity. (I am not sure if the limiting factor is age or if the limiting factor is that the list only populates the first 20 pages.)

    This is a discussion about searching for deleted posts.

    Mods can still search with no restrictions. So at worst our esteemed moderators will start getting a lot more e-mails from Will Jagy.


    @Willie: 10K users can see the list of recently deleted posts. But the list doesn't show self-deleted posts.

    May I ask when the migration to SE 2.0 will be completed?

    Vincent, we're still ironing out some details in preparation for signing an agreement with SE. After we sign that agreement, we will have a set timetable for migration.

    • CommentAuthorWillieWong
    • CommentTimeJun 17th 2013

    Just in case people have not heard: The SE2 network is overhauling its 'vote-to-close' machinery. In particular, the "Off-topic" language can be much more customized. I suspect that we may want some standardized reasons like

    • ... is an open problem. The question asked is known to be equivalent to a well-known open problem. See comments for details.
    • ... is not research level. MathOverflow is a Q&A forum for research mathematics. Your question will be better received on Mathematics.Stackexchange.Com. [Alternatively we can just include MSE as a default migration target.]
    • CommentAuthorTobias
    • CommentTimeJun 17th 2013
    I would definitely suggest having MSE as a default migration option, as it Will likely be the one most commonly needed.
    • CommentAuthorWill Jagy
    • CommentTimeJun 18th 2013
    @Willie, what I really want is a vote-to-close option that says

    The person asking is an idiot.
    @Will Jagy:

    If I recall correctly, it was pointed out that the off topic option would have a free-form option as well. Although I'm not sure many people would agree to this sort of closing reason... That's a whole other thing.
    • CommentAuthorjonas
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2013

    There's a short downtime announced on the main page for 2013-06-24. Is this in preparation for the migration?

    • CommentAuthorquid
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2013

    @jonas: it is not the first downtime during the discussion of migration, and from the last message of François G. Dorais and the way things were sketched out earlier, I think it is almost certainly not (directly) in preparation for the migration (in the sense that it will then happen [or rapidly thereafter]). That it is in some indirect, technical sense on SE's side, part of the preparation, this might be though I'd also doubt it.

    • CommentAuthorKaveh
    • CommentTimeJun 19th 2013 edited

    Jeff Atwood, Robin Ward, and Sam Saffron have been working on an open-source software for discussions: It is not finished yet, but I thought others might be interested to know about it (w.r.t. discussions about what kind of meta we will have after migration).


    @jonas: Yes! The initial reason for the downtime was to move our serving location from Oregon to New York. However, the plan is now shaping up for us to do the migration at the same time. I'll update the announcement to reflect this shortly.

    • CommentAuthorjonas
    • CommentTimeJun 24th 2013

    This is very good news! Thank you.

    I'm suddenly very worried about the link rot to meta in comments (thanks a lot quid!).

    Is there a plan to correct this? (For example have this as and replace all the links in the comments which point to meta.MO by oldmeta.MO)

    @Kaveh the site will have a normal SE 2.0 meta. I've tried Discourse, it may not be the best idea for a meta.

    @Asaf Well, since the /discussion point isn't taken, it probably would be easy to set up a redirect for that.

    IIRC when SO got its own meta, the older meta (a uservoice forum) was discarded without much issue. You may want to decide if there's anything on this meta worth keeping. (MO has been there for a long time now, so I bet there's tons of stuff, though)


    Asaf, all the links to meta on the main site now point to (which currently isn't anything but it will be later today).


    Thank you very much.

    Tea is for discussions, coffee is for math. So it makes a lot of sense, too!
    • CommentAuthorquid
    • CommentTimeJun 24th 2013

    Not sure about the beverages-aspect, but I am glad the meta-links-issue is addressed. Thanks!


    I've already updated the DNS for, so the meta (er ... tea) links on the sandbox work properly.



    If we do decide to keep using this meta for some discussions then we can always go and say "It's tea time!" or "We'll talk about this over tea later today."

    Five minutes away from the transition: good night, and good luck!
    ... and MathOverflow 1.0 is now down! Looking forward to 2.0 soon <fingers-crossed>.